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Alabama
High School Playoffs
Below is a list of the First Round Playoff
Match-ups
Click on links to see actual brackets for
playoffs.
Boys 4A-1A Brackets & Scores
LAMP at Houston Academy at 6:00pm at Westgate Park
on May 3rd
UMS-Wright at Trinity Presbyterian at 5:00pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Altamont at Holy Spirit at 7:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Brewbaker Tech at Indian Springs at 7:00pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Collinsville at Mars Hill at 4:30pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Priceville at Jacksonville at 6:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Catholic Huntsville at Madison Academy at 7:00pm on
May 3rd
West Limestone at Randolph at 7:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Girls 4A-1A Brackets & Scores
Catholic Montgomery at Bayside Academy at 6:00pm on
May 3rd
Houston Academy at Montgomery Academy - 6pm, Monday,
May 2nd
Indian Springs at Holy Spirit at 7:00pm on Monday,
May 2nd
Demopolis at Altamont at 4:30pm at Comer Field on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Sacred Heart at Mars Hill Bible at 4:00pm on Monday,
May 2nd
Priceville at Jacksonville at 4:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Catholic Huntsville at Madison Academy at 5pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
East Limestone at Randolph at 5:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Boys 5A Brackets & Scores
Carroll (Ozark) at Saint Paul's Episcopal at 7:00pm
on May 3rd
Citronelle at Eufaula at 5:00pm at Tiger
Stadium on May 3rd
Homewood at Benjamin Russell at 7:00pm on Tuesday,
May 3rd
Sylacauga at Briarwood Christian at 7:00pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Fort Payne at Northridge at 7:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Gardendale at Albertville at 6:00pm on Monday, May
2nd
Hartselle at Huntsville at 6pm at John Hunt Park on
May 3rd
Lee of Huntsville at Cullman at 7:30pm on Tuesday,
May 3rd
Girls 5A Brackets & Scores
Sylacauga at St. Paul's Episcopal at 5:00pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Citronelle at Benjamin Russell - 5pm, Alex City
Sportsplex on May 3rd
Briarwood at Northridge at 4:30pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Pleasant Grove at Homewood - 6:30pm, Waldrop Stadium
on May 3rd
Butler at Fort Payne at 6:00pm on Tuesday, May 3rd
Gadsden at Arab at 6:30pm on Tuesday, May 3rd
Athens at Huntsville at 8pm at John Hunt Park on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Lee of Huntsville at Cullman at 5:00pm on Tuesday,
May 3rd
Boys 6A Brackets & Scores
Fairhope at McGill-Toolen Catholic at 7:30pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Davidson at Daphne - TBA
Prattville at Enterprise at 7:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Northview at Auburn at 6:00pm on Monday, May 2nd
Thompson at Oak Mountain at 7:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Vestavia Hills at John Carroll Catholic at 7pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Bob Jones at Shades Valley at 6:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Mountain Brook at Grissom at 6:00pm on Monday, May
2nd
Girls 6A Brackets & Scores
Daphne at McGill-Toolen Catholic at 5:30pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Baker at Fairhope at 6:00pm on Tuesday, May 3rd
Prattville at Enterprise at 5:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Dothan at Auburn at 6:00pm on Tuesday, May 3rd
Thompson at Vestavia Hills at 5:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd
Hoover at John Carroll Catholic at 5:00pm on
Tuesday, May 3rd
Bob Jones at Mountain Brook at 6pm on Football Field
on May 3rd
Shades Valley at Grissom at 6:00pm on Tuesday, May
3rd.
Ken Gamble
It's not about beating the other guy, it's about
having fun. But nothing is more fun than beating the
other guy. Marc Crawford
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Friday,
April 22, 2005 |
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Boys Metro
Soccer Tournament
Link to Metro Tournament Website
Saturday April 23
At Liberty Park
10:00 am - Chelsea vs Pleasant Grove on Field 11
12:00 pm - Clay-Chalkville vs Minor on Field 11
12:00 pm - Vestavia vs Indian Springs on Field 13
At John Carroll Catholic High School
10:00 am - Oak Mountain vs Homewood
12:00 pm - Briarwood vs John Carroll
At Spain Park High School Soccer Stadium
12:00 pm - Pinson Valley vs Shades Mountain
Christian
2:00 pm - Hewitt-Trussville vs Gardendale
4:00 pm - Shades Valley vs Spain Park
Monday April 25
At Liberty Park
5:00 pm - Altamont vs Oak Mountain Field. 11
5:00 pm - Chelsea vs Shades Mtn. Christian Field. 13
7:00 pm - Mtn. Brook vs Vestavia Field. 13
At John Carroll
5:00 pm - Minor vs Gardendale
7:00 pm - Pelham vs Shades Valley
At Spain Park High School
5:00 pm - Thompson vs Briarwood Soccer Field.
7:00 pm - Hewitt-Trussville vs Clay-Chalkville
Football Field.
7:00 pm - Pinson Valley vs Pleasant Grove Soccer
Field
Tuesday April 26
At Liberty Park
5:00 pm - Gardendale vs Clay-Chalkville on Field. 13
7:00 pm - Pinson Valley vs Chelsea on Field. 11
7:00 pm - Indian Springs vs Mountain Brook on Field.
13
At John Carroll
5:00 pm - Minor vs Hewitt-Trussville
7:00 pm - John Carroll vs Thompson
At Spain Park High School
5:00 pm - Homewood vs Altamont on the Soccer Field.
7:00 pm - Pleasant Grove vs Shades Mtn. Christian on
the Football Field.
7:00 pm - Spain Park vs Pelham on the Soccer Field.
Wednesday April 27
At Liberty Park
Game 1 - 1st place from A vs 1st place from D at
7:00 pm at LP Field 13
Game 3 - 2nd place from A vs 2nd place from D at
7:00 pm at LP Field 11
Game 5 - 3rd place from A vs 3rd place from D at
5:00 pm at LP Field 13
At Spain Park
Game 2 - 1st place from B vs 1st place from C at
7:00 pm at SP Soccer
Game 4 - 2nd place from B vs 2nd place from C at
7:00 pm at SP Football
Game 6 - 3rd place from B vs 3rd place from C at
5:00 pm at SP Soccer
Thursday April 28
Championship Games
Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 2 - A Division at 6
p.m. at LP Field #11
Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 2 - B Division at 6
p.m. at LP Field #13
NOTE: All Metro Player Awards, Ray Woodard
Coach of the Year, Team Sportsmanship,
All-Tournament Award winners, League and Tournament
Trophies will be presented after the Championship
games Thursday April 28 at Liberty Park Field 13.
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Thursday,
April 21, 2005 |
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Links to
Good Soccer Articles
Links to Good Soccer Articles
Listed below are excerpts and links to some good
recent articles about soccer.
View the complete articles by clicking on the
links.
Positive Coaching
Phil Jackson, 9-time NBA champion, speaks out about
what current coaching techniques may be doing to our
kids. Sent in by Herndon Elliott.
New Frequently Asked Questions Page added to Referee
Section of USsoccer.com website.
CHICAGO (February 10, 2005)
New referees can now find answers to their questions
more easily than ever by logging on to the
Frequently Asked Questions for New Referees page in
the Referee section of ussoccer.com.
The FAQs for New Referees section is designed for
new and inexperienced referees who have basic
questions about specific game situations. It also
allows new officials to browse through different
questions and learn about other game situations
before they encounter them.
Replaying 'The Game of Their Lives'
By Christian Swezey (The Washington Post)
The Washington premiere of "The Game of Their
Lives," a movie about the United States' 1-0 victory
over heavily favored England in the 1950 World Cup,
gave four players a chance to relive the game.
Harry Keough recalled a play where a pass sent an
American player through for a shot that nearly
resulted in a second goal. "But I don't remember who
made the pass," he said. "I did," said John Sousa,
sitting a few feet away.
Their memories will be shared with moviegoers when
"The Game of Their Lives" opens tomorrow.
Setanta Sports debuts on DIRECTV
on Tuesday, April 26 at 6:00 a.m. E.T. and will be
available to residential subscribers for $11.99 a
month and commercial subscribers for $100 a month.
It will air seven days a week, 18 hours a day
through August and then expand to a full, 24-hour
channel.
The channel is dedicated to distinctly European
football (soccer) from enormously popular football
countries such as England, Ireland, and Scotland and
also carries an increasing number of European and
world-class rugby events. Setanta Sports programming
will feature top-quality LIVE sports productions
from renowned European broadcasters.
Soccer Players' Injury Rates Tracked in British
Study
By Patricia Reaney LONDON (Reuters) - Soccer players
are more likely to suffer injuries in their sport
than gymnasts, tennis players and swimmers,
researchers said on Thursday.
A study of 203 elite young athletes who were
initially questioned when they were aged 8-16 and
followed up 10 years later showed that about 63
percent of soccer players had been injured compared
to 28 percent of swimmers.
Balboa, Ramos, Harkes ticketed for Soccer Hall of
Fame
ONEONTA, N.Y. (SportsTicker) — Former World Cup
teammates and Major League Soccer pioneers Marcelo
Balboa, Tab Ramos and John Harkes were named Monday
to the National Soccer Hall of Fame in their first
year of eligibility.
Soccer Plays on the Big Screen
By Jack Bell - The New York Times
Whether it is in Italy, England, Germany or nearly
anywhere else in the world, hooliganism is the
disfigured face of soccer, the beautiful game.
The film, which won the jury award and the audience
award for best narrative feature last month at the
South by Southwest Film Festival, is one of several
new soccer movies. "The Game of Their Lives," the
story of the United States team's monumental upset
of England at the 1950 World Cup (not to be confused
with the British movie of the same name about North
Korea's team in the 1966 World Cup), opens Friday.
Next month comes "Kicking and Screaming," starring
Will Ferrell as a youth soccer coach. And Spike Lee
is the executive producer of "The Goal," about a
Brazilian star in the United States.
"I think what's changing is that Hollywood used to
cater only to the American audience, but worldwide
sales have really changed that attitude toward
soccer movies," Alexander said in a telephone
interview.
"Fever Pitch," the No. 3 movie in the United States
last week, was adapted from Nick Hornby's book about
the Arsenal soccer team and turned into a movie
about the Boston Red Sox.
Monson: We didn't need to know soccer to enjoy it
By Gordon Monson - Tribune Columnist
We could pretend to be all sophisticated and
experienced about what we saw Saturday when Real
Salt Lake took to the soccer pitch at Rice-Eccles
Stadium for the first time, but . . . c'mon, it's
better to be open and honest.
Most of us didn't have a clue.
Major League Soccer is a new deal around here, and
we were sizing up the whole thing on the run. We saw
our 7-year-olds play bunch ball in the morning, and
we took in the country's best pros in the afternoon.
Latest U.S. Soccer Team Has Roots in Mexico
by Carrie Kahn
Day to Day, April 14, 2005 · Major League Soccer's
newest team, Chivas USA, was created in the image of
its mother club, Chivas of Guadalajara, one of
Mexico's most popular soccer teams. The club's owner
hopes Chivas will bring new fans and new energy to
U.S. soccer.
Listen to the audio at NPR
Riverhounds feel like they're home
(article about minor league soccer in the US)
By Chico Harlan, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
They celebrated wins, in previous years, by driving
home -- unshowered -- from a dark high school
stadium. For players on the Riverhounds, the
schedule was a four-month ego bruise. They were
members of a professional soccer team. Some joked
that professional was a misnomer.
Top Upcoming High School Games
Briarwood girls vs Huntsville on Friday 4/22 at
5:00pm at Briarwood
Bob Jones boys vs Grissom on Monday 4/25 at 7:00pm
at Grissom
Briarwood girls vs Altamont on Wednesday 4/27 at
7:00pm at Briarwood
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Thursday,
April 14, 2005 |
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Soccer -
This weekend
If you’re interesting in watching some good soccer
this weekend check out the games below. Please
e-mail me any games you feel should be added to this
list - dsports@hiwaay.net
#7 John Carroll Boys at #2 Shades Valley
Friday night at 5:15 PM
#1 Oak Mountain Boys at #4 Vestavia Friday
night at Vestavia at 7:00 PM
6A #9 Fairhope Girls host 1A-4A #1 Indian Springs
at 10:00 AM Saturday at Majors Field at Fairhope
Municipal Stadium.
Cullman Soccer Round Robin Boys Games
Three-team "round-robin" between #11 Bob Jones, #5
Benjamin Russell and #4 Cullman.
Friday, April 15th at 7:00 P.M. - Benjamin Russell
vs Cullman.
Saturday, April 16th at 9:00 A.M. - Bob Jones vs
Benjamin Russell
Saturday, April 16th at 2:30 P.M. - Cullman vs Bob
Jones
Sparkman Shootout – JV Tournament
http://www.senatorsoccer.com
Oak Mountain - Sixth Annual OMHS JV Invitational
Tournament
April 15 & 16, 2005 at Oak Mountain High School in
Birmingham, Alabama - The teams committed are: Oak
Mountain, Thompson, Huntsville, Pleasant Grove,
Grissom, Mountain Brook, Bob Jones, Homewood, Fort
Payne, and Vestavia.
"Kick A Goal for CCFA 2005" Soccer Exhibition
http://www.decatursports.com/events/CCFA2005.doc
Saturday, April 16, 2005, The Orthopedic Center -
Crestwood Hospital - and Knology present "Kick a
Goal for CCFA 2005." This will held in conjunction
with the Huntsville Spring Classic at John Hunt
Soccer Complex in Huntsville, AL. Participants
include the University of Alabama, Auburn
University, Samford & Birmingham Southern College
womens’ soccer teams. For additional information
about this event, tickets and or if you would like
to volunteer to help, please contact Anneta Simmons
@ asim0908@knology.net , 256-509-6521.
HSC Spring Classic Tournament
April 16th and 17th, 2005
http://www.huntsvillesoccerclub.org/tournament/
UAB Alumni Game
April 16th - West Campus - no details available
Thunder Road Classic Soccer Tournament
April 16 & 17, 2005 at the Auburn Soccer Complex in
Auburn, Alabama
http://www.auburnalabama.org/soccer/
NSCAA Rankings for Region II – April 12th, 2005
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/hs/index_E.html
Boys:
1 Parkview (Lilburn, Ga.)
2 Oak Mountain (Birmingham, Ala.)
3 Lassiter (Marietta, Ga.)
4 Briarwood (Birmingham, Ala.)
5 Walton (Marietta, Ga.)
6 Dalton (Ga.)
7 Shades Valley (Birmingham, Ala.)
8 Virgil I. Grissom (Huntsville, Ala.)
9 Johnson (Gainesville, Ga.)
10 Savannah (Ga.) Christian
Girls:
1 McIntosh (Peachtree City, Ga.)
2 Starr's Mill (Fayetteville, Ga.)
3 Huntsville (Ala.)
4 Fort Mill (S.C.)
5 Vestavia Hills (Ala.)
6 Parkview (Lilburn, Ga.)
7 Shiloh (Snellville, Ga.)
8 Stratford Academy (Macon, Ga.)
9 Mauldin (S.C.)
10 Brookland Cayce (Cayce, S.C.)
ken gamble
Lagniappe:
Soccer Skills
(Adapted from material compiled by Performance
Conditioning for Soccer newsletter in U.S. Soccer
Sports Medicine.)
Soccer requires every conceivable physical skill.
Here’s a breakdown of a typical game for a teenage
player:
The distance covered during a game is between 5 and
6.5 miles (2.5 miles for a goalkeeper)-constantly
walking, jogging, running, sprinting-in all
directions.
Rest pauses are only about 3 seconds every 2
minutes.
Less that 2% of the total distance, or only about
200 yards, is with possession of the ball. So, the
majority of the time is comprised of movement off
the ball.
There are about 1,000 activity changes in a game,
which means a change in speed or direction every 6
seconds.
Games are typically played at 75% of a player’s
physical limits.
"You can never be fit enough for this game."
Anson Dorrance in "The Vision of a Champion"
Two Beautiful Goals
http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/sights/
Check out the video of two beautiful goals in Landon
Donovan's home debut with the LA Galaxy.
The first one includes a terrific fake and pinpoint
shooting. The second video should be seen by every
defender and serve as a lesson to never clear a ball
with your legs that you can clear with your head.
Here are some more of my favorite quotes from
Anson Dorrance's Book "The Vision of a Champion"
"One of the most unfortunate things I see when
identifying youth players in the girl who is told
over the years how great she is. By the time she's a
high school freshman, she starts to believe it. By
her senior year, she's fizzled out. Then there's her
counterpart": a girl waiting in the wings, who
quietly and with determination decides she's going
to make something of herself. Invariably, this
humble, hardworking girls is the one who becomes the
real player." Anson Dorrance in "The Vision of a
Champion"
"Usually a championship team is built on a strong
defense. That's something you can bring to every
game. A great attack is always going to be
inconsistent - at least on the scoreboard - that's
the nature of the game." Anson Dorrance in "The
Vision of a Champion"
Have a Great Weekend!
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Saturday,
April 09, 2005 |
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US Women's
National Team Has New Head Coach
Saturday, April 9th, 2005
The US Women's National Soccer Team has a New
Head Coach
GREG RYAN NAMED HEAD COACH OF U.S. WOMEN'S
NATIONAL TEAM
Assistant on 2004 Olympic Team Will Lead U.S.
Women Towards China 2007, Becomes Fifth Head Coach
in U.S. History
Greg Ryan has been named the new Head Coach and
Technical Director of U.S. Soccer's Women's National
Team. Terms of the deal were not released. Ryan, 48,
was previously named the interim head coach after
the resignation of April Heinrichs on Feb. 15, and
he led the USA to the championship at the 2005
Algarve Cup in early March. In Portugal, the team
was undefeated and did not allow a goal over four
matches, including a 1-0 victory over Germany in the
title game.
http://www.ussoccer.com
Concerns about Ryan?
On the Women's Soccer E-mail List there was a lot of
concern about how close in style Coach Ryan might be
to April Heinrichs. April has never gotten a lot of
love from the members of the Women's Soccer List.
Most consider her an physical embodiment of the
Peter Principle - the idea that people are promoted
one level above their ability.
To alleviate those concerns a list member, Art
Bowman, provided this insight into Coach Ryan's
coaching style.
In an interview printed in the Los Angeles Times,
Greg Ryan, named coach of the U.S. women's national
soccer team Friday, said: "I think the best advice
April (Heinrichs) gave me was just to be myself and
coach the way I want to coach.
"April has said, and I agree, that she and I are
as different as night and day, and that's partly
why we worked well together; we balanced each other.
"In terms of coaching style, I will take a very
aggressive approach on the field, in terms of
aggressive attacking and aggressive defending. That
was the approach that we implemented in the Algarve
Cup. I felt like in Portugal, I had a great rapport
with the players."
Perhaps that will answer early concerns about his
ties to Heinrichs and whether he will follow her
lead or create his own coaching style.
Ken Gamble
Lagniappe:
"Champions do not become champions when they win
the event, but in the hours, weeks, months and years
that they spend preparing for it. The victorious
performance is merely the demonstration of their
championship character." - T. Alan Armstrong
"DO or DO NOT. There is no TRY" - Jedi Master
Yoda (Star Wars)
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Friday,
April 08, 2005 |
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High
School Tidbits
Friday, April 8th, 2005
High School Tidbits
Can anyone beat the Oak Mountain Boys?
Answer: Yes - Anything can happen - a rough field,
strong wind, rain, injuries, penalty kicks, etc.
Most importantly it will require an opponent with a
strong back line and great goalkeeper - a team that
can hold Oak Mountain to 1 or 0 goals while giving
themselves a chance to get a goal or two. There are
several teams that fit that bill.
Is there any high school with better boys and
girls soccer teams with a worst combined record
(8-18-2) than Spain Park?
(Boys 5-10-1 and Girls 3-8-1) - Every single loss
is to a Top Ten Team!
What do these teams: Oak Mountain Boys, Briarwood
Boys and the Huntsville Girls have in common?
Answer: All three have been #1 in every Coaches Poll
of the 2005 high school season. If history is any
indicator one of these schools will NOT win a 2005
state championship.
Soccer Events This Weekend
Morgan County High School Soccer Tournament at Point
Mallard Soccer Complex in Decatur - April 7th, 8th
and 9th, 2005
http://www.decatursports.com/events/morgan.htm
Men’s College Soccer Exhibitions - Birmingham, AL -
featuring University of Alabama-Birmingham,
University of Memphis, and Furman University at the
Sports First Soccer Complex located in Shelby
County, AL, this weekend, Saturday April, 9th.
Saturday’s night’s feature games will include UAB
vs. Furman at 10:00am, Memphis vs. Furman at 2:00pm,
and UAB vs. Memphis at 7:00pm.
In addition, at the Sports First Soccer Complex
located in Shelby County, AL this weekend, Saturday
April 9th, the Kohl’s US Youth Soccer American Cup,
the largest recreational youth soccer festival in
the United States will be coming to Alabama.
Admission to the Kohl’s U.S. Youth Soccer American
Cup is free. Admission to the Men’s College
Exhibitions will cost $5.
Alabama ODP April Event - Birmingham
http://www.alabamayouthsoccer.org/
Soccer Joke:
The Blues no 8 was taken from behind by the Reds no
6. The referee blew instantly but, before he could
intervene, the furious no 8 had taken a swing at his
aggressor.
The referee had no hesitation, showed him the red
card and sent him off, before turning to the foul
tackler to show him the yellow card. The no 6
started to protest but was silenced by the referee -
who suddenly fell to the ground, out cold.
When the referee came round and had been helped to
his feet, he tried to recall what had happened. He
caught sight of the no 6 and said: “I remember. I’d
cautioned you and you tried to protest. What was
that all about?”
"I was just trying to tell you that the no.8 hadn't
gone off and was about to flatten you!"
Soccer Joke #2:
A match between two non-League teams took place last
winter in the North of England. It had been raining
heavily all week and the ground resembled a swamp.
However, the referee ruled that play was possible
and tossed the coin to determine ends.
The visiting captain won the toss and, after a
moment's thought, said, 'OK - we'll take the shallow
end!'
Stranger than fiction
The 1878 Cup Final between Wanderers and Royal
Engineers was refereed by a Mr. S.R. Bastard.
http://www.kenaston.org/LAWS/LAW-JOKES.htm
adidas - All Day I Dream About Soccer
Two German brothers Adolph (Adi) and Rudolph Dassler
started with a dream to make the best sports gear
imaginable. The two Dassler brothers began producing
footwear in 1924. Today it's something we take for
granted, but in 1920, at the young age of 20, Adolph
(Adi) Dassler invented spiked shoes for track and
field. Four years later Adi and his brother Rudolph
(Rudi) founded the German sports
shoe company Gebrüder Dassler OHG – later known as
adidas (pron. AH-dee-DAHS, not ah-DEE-duhs). The
brothers' father was a cobbler in Herzogenaurauch,
Germany, where they were born.
By 1925 the Dasslers were making leather
Fußballschuhe (Adi was an avid soccer player) with
nailed studs and track shoes with hand-forged
spikes. Beginning with the 1928 Olympics in
Amsterdam, Adi's uniquely designed shoes began to
gain a worldwide reputation. Jesse Owens was wearing
a pair of Dassler's track shoes when he won gold for
the USA at the 1936 Berlin Olympics.
In 1948, after an argument, they decided to go their
separate ways and set up their own companies. Rudi
founded Puma (one of adidas' biggest competitors in
Europe) and Adi renamed his firm by combining
elements of his name. These are two of the best
brands of soccer apparel made today.
The name Adidas, formed from the first and last name
of its founder, has come to mean so much more. Is it
merely a coincidence that the letters of the Adidas
name have come to stand for the acronym All Day I
Dream About Soccer, among many other things.
Taken from the following websites:
http://www.geocities.com/wnlrunr/March2001Communique.html
http://www.daculasoccer.com/tidbits.htm
U.S. U-17 Roster State Breakdown
Provided to the Soccer-Coach-L e-mail list by Pete
Gratton
United States under-17 national team coach John
Hackworth announced the 18-player roster for the
CONCACAF Group A qualifying tournament April 12-16
in Heredia, Costa Rica. Missing from the team is Los
Angeles Galaxy draft pick Quavas Kirk, who broke his
foot Sunday in a match against Haiti. The following
is the state-by-state breakdown of the roster with
each player's youth club in parentheses.
Ten of the 18 slots were taken by players from
California & Florida. Once again the good
weather, high population states come through.
Finding Gracie
After the last "ON The Touchlines" about the top
soccer movies, Harding Leach provided this
information about a new movie about Gracie Bowen
called "Finding Gracie". Sixteen-year-old Gracie
Bowen is a gutsy teenage girl who rocks at soccer
and stands up to boys.
Gracie’s story takes place in the late 1970s. Moved
by a personal tragedy, Gracie struggles to show her
community that girls can compete with boys. Although
the adults in her life make things difficult at
times, Gracie relies on her closest relationships to
find success in a way that she never expected.
The movie script is inspired by events in the life
of Elisabeth Shue. Growing up in the late 1970s
before girls’ soccer became popular, Lisa played
hard against boys to prove herself. Her
determination as a teenager helped her become the
successful actress she is today.
http://www.findinggracie.com/
Ken Gamble
Lagniappe:
Former U.S. international goalkeeper Brad Friedel
made several standout saves Saturday to help
Blackburn hold Manchester United to a 0-0 tie in the
English Premier League.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/world/2005-04-02-euro-roundup_x.htm?csp=34
Grandpa's Soccer Song CD by Keith Bilderbeck
http://www.babayaga.com/soccerlyrics.htm
Check out these lyrics of soccer songs. Some of them
are really funny.
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Wednesday,
April 06, 2005 |
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World Cup
or World Series?
Top Soccer Movies of All Time:
Did you ever wish there were better movies featuring
soccer?
It appears that soon after America created the
moving picture show with Birth of A Nation
that the country must have also passed a law that
only "American-born" sports (baseball, basketball
and football) could be featured in films. There's
Hoosiers, Brian's Song, Field of Dreams and
Bull Durham.
Soccer has a few good movies and a few that deserve
to be "sent-off"! Below is my "Starting 11"
of soccer movies.
I can't wait to see the upcoming "Game of Their
Lives" about the USA's 1950 World Cup victory over
England. I'm hoping it's good. Frankly, it has to be
better than the majority of the movies on this list.
The future looks good for soccer movies - mainly
because the past is so bad.
Writing this piece was a better idea than reality.
I'm a big soccer fan and I was stretched very thin
trying to find 11 soccer movies I could stand.
(Aside - I wrote an article on my Top Ten baseball
movies about eight years ago and it took me a month
to whittle my list down to ten.) This list took
about 30 minutes.
GOAL! These movies scored!
1. Fever Pitch - Colin Firth has to choose
between his love for the Arsenal soccer team and his
girlfriend - This is actually a pretty good movie.
It's my pick for #1. That says more for soccer
movies (or the lack thereof) than it does about the
overall quality of the film.
2. The Boys in Company C - This is one of my
favorite movies about Vietnam. Just serving in
Vietnam means that their chances of making it home
are not good. But if they can beat a Vietnamese
soccer team they will be rewarded by no longer
serving in action. Instead they will get to go on a
tour of soccer friendlies far away from the military
action. The soccer action is secondary but the movie
is good enough to be included by any means. Rough
language. Not a movie for kids.
3. Bend It Like Beckham - Indian girl plays
soccer against her mother's wishes for her to become
a traditional Indian wife. Very funny movie and fit
for all ages. The soccer footage isn't great but it
also doesn't make you sick.
4. Victory - Stallone and Nazis and Pele -
Prisoners of war become cogs in the Nazi Propaganda
machine when they agree to play a soccer match
against a team of Nazi all-stars. Their motive is to
use the match as a means to escape the prisoner of
war camp. Not a bad flick. It's directed by John
Huston and loaded with stars. Sounds like "The Boys
in Company C", but it's not as good.
5. Gregory's Girl - Scottish teens, love and
soccer - good movie
YELLOW CARD - Still undecided.
6. A Shot at Glory - Michael Keaton and
Robert Duvall in a movie you will probably never
see. I found and ordered this one on ebay. I'll let
you know if it stays or goes.
7. Mean Machine - Think of The Longest Yard
with soccer instead of football.
RED CARDS - Bye, bye - The beautiful game is
better off without these movies. In fact, I blame
these movies for the reputation of soccer in the US.
8. Ladybugs - Rodney Dangerfield as the
soccer coach who enlists a boy in a wig to play on
his girls team so he can win a promotion from his
boss - It's hard to believe it could be as bad as it
sounds - but it is. This one appeals to young kids
but has some of the worst soccer footage and
film-cutting ever. For example, the screen shows a
star girl from the waist up dribbling down the
field. Then the screen view switches to her footwork
showing from the legs down. The bodies don't even
match.
9. The Big Green - Disney's Mighty Ducks with
soccer instead of hockey.
10. Soccer Dog: The Movie - a dog of a movie!
11. Switching Goals - a Mary-Kate and Ashley
movie - This movie deserves a red card.
If you have any additions send them to me at
dsports@hiwaay.net
I got several recommendations including: La
Fiesta de Todo el Mundo and Hot Shot.
World Cup or World Series?
(Jonathan Wills provided this information and link
to the Women's Soccer e-mail list.)
The authors of National Pastime: "How Americans Play
Baseball and the Rest of the World Plays Soccer",
Stefan Szymanski and Andrew Zimbalist, visited "Talk
of the Nation" on National Public Radio yesterday.
From the webpage listed below:
"Why is America's pastime different from the rest
of the world's?"
Two economists examine this question in National
Pastime: How Americans Play Baseball and the Rest of
the World Plays Soccer. Culture and history have
a role to play, the authors argue, but some of the
most important explanations for how these sports
have evolved are economic.
"Guests: Stefan Szymanksi and Andrew Zimbalist, the
two authors of National Pastime. Szymanksi is a
professor of economics and strategy at Tanaka
Business School at Imperial College London.
Zimbalist is the Robert A. Woods professor of
economics at Smith College."
It’s 30 minute audio program that examines the
question of why Americans play baseball while the
rest of the world plays soccer. The authors look at
the open market promotion and relegation system of
soccer and compare it to the monopoly system of
Major League Baseball.
If you stay with the audio program to the end, you
will find that the two economists who wrote the book
are very optimistic about the future of professional
soccer in the United States. They seem to believe
that soccer is laying the groundwork for success.
There is a PDF excerpt from the book by the authors.
To listen to the piece:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4577211
Click on the Listen button just under the heading.
It's about 30 minutes long. The page also has posted
a PDF excerpt from the book.
Lagniappe:
* "1 goal, 10 assists." Adidas commercial on USA
Women's World Cup Soccer Team
* "The rules of soccer are simple. If it moves, kick
it. If it doesn't move, kick it until it does."
Peter Woosnam
* Attack of the Soccer Robots - When will androids
beat us at sports?
http://www.slate.com/id/2116163/
Ken Gamble
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Monday,
April 04, 2005 |
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More
Cowbell!
Tuesday, April 5th, 2005
More Cowbell!
As Christopher Walken (as legendary record producer
Bruce Dickenson) would say, "I Got a fever and the
only cure is more cowbell, baby!"
Well, it's close to playoff time and even
Christopher Walken would be welcome in soccer
stadiums around the state. Official word from Greg
Brewer at AHSAA is that artificial noisemakers (Cow
Bells) are legal for spectators at outdoor sporting
events. Air powered noise makers such as Air Horns
are not permissible. Drums fall in the same
category as cow bells, in that they are man-powered
and therefore allowed.
Alabama Player Called up to National Training
Camp
Merritt Mathias, a 1990 Alabama ODP player, was
invited to compete with the Regional ODP team at the
Huntsville event which included ten 1989 players and
only six 1990 players. The Regional ODP team played
games against Vanderbilt, Auburn, and the University
of Memphis finishing with 2 wins and 1 tie. Merritt
performed brilliantly as a forward for the region
finishing with 2 goals and 1 assist over the course
of the 3 games.
Based on Merritt performance at the Regional ODP
level, she has been invited to the Under 16 USA
National training camp, April 16th – 23rd in Chula
Vista, CA. Congratulations goes out to Merritt as we
wish her the best on her efforts at the National
Team level!
“Merritt has not only made a real commitment to
improve her game at the higher level, she has also
been making tough decisions to put herself in the
best environments to develop.” comments Scott
Spencer, AYSA Director of Coaching. “That can be
difficult, so it is exciting to see her hard work
has given her a great accomplishment and
opportunity. She has a very bright future in this
game!”
Some Things never change
This funny post was spotted on the Alabama Live
Sports Forum in June of 1999: (It's nice to know
some things never change.)
FanAnon, a self-help program for the
control-challenged, can now help fans of high school
and youth sports, its founder announced yesterday.
"For the past decade we've been able to bring relief
to thousands of professional hockey and college
football enthusiasts," reports psychiatrist Dr.
Kilda Umpp, FanAnon founder. "We hope now to do the
same for those who attend children's athletic
contests. We see this as a vital, expanding market."
FanAnon combines three elements in its unique
approach:
1. The traditional 12-step program. "The hardest
part of the program is getting the fan to admit that
there is a power higher than himself," says Dr.
Umpp. "We have to work to convince him that the guy
with the whistle has the authority to make decisions
that might affect the outcome of the game."
Recovering fans, who serve as buddies for those who
suffer ref distress, often accompany new members to
games.
2. Anger-management techniques. "We've heard moving
stories from fans who berated coaches, screamed at
children on the field, insulted parents of opposing
teams, and even intimidated officials. We call this
'game rage,'" explains Dr. Umpp. "To combat this we
use behavior modeling. Fortunately, we have only to
look as far as the young athletes themselves for
good examples. Remarkably, they manage to endure
defeat, express their disappointment in appropriate
ways, and then go on to resume normal social and
academic lives quite quickly. We try to give their
parents the same resilience. Children have an
advantage, however: they tend to look upon athletic
games as play, a concept long lost on adults."
3. Hormone therapy. Sometimes, the fan is merely
hormonally-challenged, reports Dr. Umpp. "When a fan
suffers from testosterone poisoning," says Dr. Umpp,
"it's relatively simple to provide a wife with a kit
-- similar to that used for bee stings -- with an
estrogen antidote. During the game she can give
hubby a quick injection and he usually calms right
down." For major events, like state high school
soccer championships and Little League All-Star
games, FanAnon recommends an estrogen patch.
FanAnon is now opening chapters in most cities.
Players may refer their parents, although the
program is most effective with those who recognize
that they need help. Schools and athletic clubs may
refer their entire fan base and enjoy group rates.
For more information, call 1-800-NOBOOS
Now this Borders on Child Abuse
A Glasgow Rangers fan told how he had named his
newborn son after 11 members of his favorite soccer
team. Clark Kearney said could not choose which
Rangers star to name his son after so he decided to
use the first names of 11 of the current first team
squad. Now he is hoping six-week-old Cairo Lionel
Sergio Lorenzo Colin Giovanni Barry Ian Jorge
Gabriel Stephane Rod Mason Kearney will grow up to
play for the Scottish Premier League team. The
mother who was not told until after her husband had
listed the names on the birth certificate was not
happy at all but has grown to accept it.
We might think he's crazy until you think about how
many Pauls, Bryants and Bears were born in the state
of Alabama in the 1970s and 1980s.
Lagniappe:
Good links to soccer (and other appropriate)
articles:
Refs' taped comments stir outrage
http://www.adn.com/sports/high_school/story/6308530p-6184818c.html
Girls basketball coach files complaint against
officials.
A post-game, locker-room conversation between
referees, caught on tape without their knowledge,
has sent East High basketball fans into a rage, put
referees on the defensive and prompted a
discrimination claim from one of the city's most
successful coaches.
Alabama Public Radio Feature Story on USA Men's
game in Birmingham
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wual/arts.artsmain?action=viewArticle&sid=15&id=756266&pid=217
Soccer Radio Diary feature by Bobby Puppione for
Alabama Public Radio. You can click on the link, go
to the page, and then click the "MP3" button to
listen.
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Sunday,
April 03, 2005 |
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Soccer
Hodgepodge
A Little Parent Cooperation
At one point during a game, the coach said to one of
his young players, "Do you understand what
cooperation is? What a team is?" The little boy
nodded in the affirmative.
"Do you understand that what matters is how we play
together as a team?" The little boy nodded yes.
"So," the coach continued, "when offside is called,
or a handball is not called, you don't argue or
curse or attack the referee. Do you understand all
that?"
Again the little boy nodded.
"Good," said the coach. "Now go over there and
explain it to your mother."
(Submitted by Otto Mueller to the Alabama Ref e-mail
list)
SOCCER STUPIDITY
Stupid Things Said In The World Of Soccer:
Well, it's Liverpool two, Ipswich nil, and if the
score stays this way, I've got to fancy Liverpool
for the win...
He had an eternity to play that ball, but took too
long.
Well, it's a fabulous kaleidoscope of color: almost
all the Brazilians are wearing yellow shirts.
Their manager, Howard Wilkinson, isn't here today,
which strongly suggests that he may be elsewhere.
I am a firm believer that if one team scores a goal,
the other need to score two to win.
If a team scores early on, it often takes an early
lead.
You cannot possibly have counted the number of
passes made, but there were eight.
And so they have not been able to improve on their
100% record.
With the last *kick* of the game, he scored with a
*header*.
These were provide to a soccer referee's e-mail list
by Greg Dunlap.
Soccer Trivia: (Answers below)
1. What is the US Men National Team's highest finish
in a World Cup?
2. Which Alabama high school player holds the state
record for most goals in a career?
3. Which Alabama high school holds the record for
state soccer championships with 8?
4. What was Pele's real name?
Great Soccer Story From December of 2000
In Saturday's game between Everton and West Ham
there was an interesting display of sportsmanship by
the Hammers' Di Caprio, the player who flattened a
referee just a couple of years back. The commentator
was clearly very impressed by his action and
remarked on the previous incident where Di Caprio
had pushed an EPL referee who had stumbled backwards
and then fell over, saying that this new action
showed an unexpected side of the Italian.
What happened was the Everton keeper had made a last
ditch save near the side of the penalty area and had
slid on the wet grass. The ball rolled free towards
the side line and he got up and started to run after
the ball but fell to the ground in obvious pain,
presumably having pulled a muscle. With the keeper
down on the ground outside the box a West Ham player
raced to the ball, took it to the by-line and then
crossed it back into the penalty area. In the 92nd
minute of a tied game, Di Caprio had the chance to
head the ball towards a goal defended only by a
fullback and so there was an excellent opportunity
to score or force the defender to handle the ball,
get a red card, and concede a penalty. Di Caprio
simply caught the ball in his hands and pointed to
the keeper writhing on the ground.
He got a round of applause, the keeper was
stretchered off and substituted for, the new keeper
kicked the free kick into touch for a West Ham
possession and the game ended after the throw in,
still tied. All in all, an impressive example of how
sportsmanship can still occur in a very competitive
situation.
Contributed to the Soccer-Ref list by Mike Moore.
An added reply to this story came from Spence
Ford
The player's name is Paolo di Canio and I watched
the game on Saturday afternoon and was very moved by
his gesture. It's interesting because he could have
also put the ball into the goal if he was just
interested in getting treatment for the keeper. He
doesn't say it but it appears that he just didn't
want the goal that way. The team's manager said
after the game that Paolo couldn't come out to be
interviewed because his teammates were beating him
up in the locker room.
More on Soccer Courtesy - February 1999:
There is an unwritten rule in soccer taught to teams
when they reach their teenage years. If your team is
in possession of the ball and not in a position to
immediately score a goal, and a teammate or an
opponent goes down with an injury you are to kick
the ball out of bounds to allow the official to
bring on medical help. When play resumes the team
who is awarded a throw-in since the other team had
kicked the ball out of bounds. Instead of throwing
the ball to their own team (in effect gaining
possession by the injury) they return the favor by
throwing the ball to their opponent.
There is no requirement that they give up possession
but its a nice bit of sportsmanship. Often the
throw-in is a long throw-in to the opponent's
goalkeeper so as not to give the opponent an obvious
goal scoring opportunity.
This unspoken act of kindness has caused an English
Football Association game between Sheffield and
Arsenal of London to be replayed. Arsenal did not
accept a 2-1 victory over Sheffield United because
the winning goal was tainted by an apparently
innocent breach of ethics. In the game at Arsenal's
field, a Sheffield player went down, and the
Sheffield goalkeeper kicked the ball out of bounds,
a normal tactic. After the injured player was
replaced, Arsenal put the ball in bounds with an
overhead throw.
Normally, the ball would have been allowed to bounce
directly to a Sheffield player, but this time it was
intercepted by Nwankwo Kanu, a young Nigerian
substitute just acquired by Arsenal. Not grasping
the significance of the soft inbounds toss, Kanu
kicked a crisp pass to Marc Overmars, a seasoned
Dutch teammate, who instinctively banged the ball in
the net. The Sheffield team went nuts, and many of
the Arsenal players were openly unhappy, but the
referee did not nullify the goal because there is no
rule governing it. He counted the goal, and the game
ended at 2-1.
Immediately afterward, the coach of Arsenal, the
Frenchman Arsène Wenger, announced that he was
declining the victory. "I offered the replay because
it wasn't right to win that way - it wasn't
Arsenal," Wenger said, adding, "The best we can do
is offer to replay the game here against Sheffield
United." The game will be replayed on Tuesday, at
Arsenal's field, with ticket prices cut in half to
avoid any suggestion of chicanery to set up an extra
payday.
Answers to Soccer Trivia:
1. If you said the quarterfinals in Korea in 2002
you would be wrong. In 1930 the US make the
semi-finals in Uruguay where they lost to Argentina
6-1. They had beaten Belgium and Paraguay 3-0 in
their first two games.
2. National team player, Catherine Reddick, scored
211 goals for Briarwood Christian from 1997 to 2000.
3. The Fort Payne Girls won 8. One in 2003 and 2001
and a record six championships in a row from 1991 to
1996.
4. Pele was born Edson Arantes do Nascimento, into a
very poor family. He was later nicknamed Pele, the
meaning of which has never been explained.
From January 2001
U.S. Soccer has turned down Birmingham's bid to host
a 2001 World Cup qualifying game in favor of lending
a helping hand to Major League Soccer. "The game was
given to Boston as a doubleheader with an MLS game,"
said Emilo Pozzi, director of events for the U.S.
Soccer Federation. "There were two finalists and
Birmingham was one of the finalists."
"We'll have a variety of friendly games to prepare
for World Cup qualifiers and we're working on a game
later in the year," Pozzi said.
From a column March of 2001:
A colleague of mine says he picked up a copy of an
American newspaper in which the soccer correspondent
complained that the World Cup competition had been
unfair to the US. The American team, he reported,
had had to play Trinidad and Tobago on the same day,
whereas no other team had to play more than one
match a day. (anonymous)
Ken Gamble
Lagniappe:
Good links to soccer articles:
Not a wealth of glory but plenty of guts for McKee -
Good article on Mountain Brook soccer player and
2005 Gatorade Alabama Player of the Year, Austin
McKee http://www.postherald.com/pr031105.shtml
Brand Beckham? - Forbes Magazine - Plenty of soccer
stars endorse products, of course, just like the
stars of most sports. But few are recognizable names
in the U.S., although there are plenty of Europeans
and South Americans famous enough in their native or
adopted countries to pull down multimillion dollar
endorsements. But Beckham--with his groomed model
good looks, and carefully managed star power -- has
the potential to become as famous in the U.S. as he
already is in the rest of the world.
http://www.forbes.com/2005/04/01/cx_pm_0401beckham.html
One on one with ... Decatur High's Meg Adams
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/sports/050331/adams.shtml
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Friday,
April 01, 2005 |
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Club
versus High School Soccer
Friday, April 1st, 2005
Club versus High School Soccer
I often read on the
al.com soccer forum that Alabama soccer has it
worse than other states because of restrictions that
High School soccer or rather AHSAA puts on its
players.
Check out the recent discussion between coaches on
the Soccer-Coach-L e-mail discussion list. This is a
list of about 600 coaches with a good mixture of
club, school and college coaches from all over the
country (and world) - many of whom coach both club
and school teams.
You will find from the discussion that most state
athletic associations put some sort of restrictions
on players and coaches. Even more interesting are
the comments from high school coaches in states
where there are no restrictions on playing soccer
for both club and high school teams at the same
time. Where possible, I have highlighted the state
(that the coach making each comment is from).
As long as there are abuses (or the appearance of
abuses) by club sports you can expect state high
school athletic associations to continue to push for
tighter and tighter restrictions against outside
sports. We only have to look at the recent
Mississippi High School Athletic proposals and Dan
Washburn's recent comments to see what they would
prefer the future to look like.
Below are some of the coaches' comments (Each
paragraph is from a different coach). I have
abbreviated most of the comments while leaving the
intent of the message as close to the original as
possible. I have made no editorial comments. I'll
leave those up to you. The main point is this is a
complicated issue with two valid and not necessarily
opposed viewpoints. Most of us want what is best for
our children/players.
Keep in mind that many of these coaches are involved
as both club and school coaches. The links to the
full comments are at:
http://lists.mun.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0503e&L=soccer-coach-l
Comments from coaches:
Some HS coaches - or perhaps its school policy -
don't permit a player to play both HS soccer and
club soccer. I can imagine the reasons... concerns
regarding injury, burnout, perhaps even coaching and
loyalty.
I know here in Illinois, kids are not allowed
to play with their club teams during high school
soccer season. It is against IHSA rules. The kids
may organize a Sunday practice on their own but no
coach can be present to train them. I am both a club
coach and a high school coach. I would love to hear
if this is legal where you live.
Here in New Hampshire, there is no rule
preventing players from playing clubs and HS at the
same time. However, such dual-activity is probably
*not* in the best interest of the player,
academically or physically, IMHO... Something will
suffer.
I don't encourage or discourage girls on my hs team
to do both, but I have two that did. Both
outstanding players who will play small college
ball. They mostly only played on week-end games for
the association teams. We had the rule when post
season play comes about they chose one team. I feel
the demands are then too high and injury may occur.
Washington
In Florida no rule prohibits players from
both teams but there are prohibitions on high school
coaches coaching any club team "out of season" where
the roster is made up of greater than 50% of the
high school team. In our area, most of the older
club coaches are affiliated one way or another with
a high school team so there is cooperation.
On my club team, I am only allowed to coach 5
players from my high school team. Players are not
allowed to play club and high school at the same
time. Some opt out of playing high school to stay
with their club teams through spring but they are
NOT allowed to play both. Players moving from high
school to high school has been a problem before and
coaches still try to recruit as well. I know it
happened to me when I played but now there are
coaches who have strong reputations for getting kids
to move to their district and leave their current HS
team.
Many state athletic associations have rules which
cover outside activity. Strictly speaking they don't
regulate what the student can do in his "Own Time".
But the courts have agreed that what a student does
in his own time can affect what the school (or
athletic association) allows him to do in his school
time - such as playing on a team or being involved
in a school activity. Alabama
This is disturbing. 'Discourage', 'advise against',
are fine. 'Not allow' seems to be losing
perspective. This is school and coaching, teaching
kids about teamwork, responsibility to others and
making choices. The player's duty to the team is to
attend practices and games and do their best by the
team. The only requirement that the HS should be
able to make is that if selected, the player will
give that team priority if there is a conflict. I
ponder whether terminology like 'not allow' has more
to do with the adult egos involved than anything
else. Canada
I guess burnout is probably part of the problem.
When you watch these girls play club all year round
and then come to high school season, they are pretty
spent when they get there. Some of them are even
starting to flip flop between wanting to play and
not wanting to play. I have seen 3 All-Americans
quit soccer all together in the past year and a half
due to burnout. They could have played at Division 1
schools but chose to live life instead. Their club
teams emphasized specialization in one sport and
playing year round. It just didn't work for these 3
kids. It's a shame but it happens all too often
anymore and this may be the reason why.
California has the same rule. If a player
plays club during the HS season, he or she cannot
play HS soccer. And if the player does so his HS
team may be in jeopardy. I think it works out here
and most club coaches respect it and schedule around
it. Upper level coaches here are with their teams
almost 9 months of the year even with this rule. It
is good for the players. They learn from another
coach, play with some other players in a different
system, learning different patterns of play. They
may get a chance to play different positions. And
playing for your school still means something, even
to ODP players.
Same applies here in Illinois and I agree. I
think it is way too much to do both at the same
time. This is coming from someone who played
nationally and also spent the majority of their life
playing soccer, 3 practices a day, along with weight
training and running. It can cause career-ending
injuries, just like it did to me.
Here in Ohio players are not allowed to
participate for their club teams during the high
school season. This is an Ohio High School Athletic
Association rule. The coaches /schools / clubs have
no say.
I'm a club and hs coach in Florida. I've had
A LOT of problems with my club players coaches
discouraging his players to play high school ball,
claiming that it "ruins" players. I've been coaching
for 13 years, and will go back to Europe to get my
UEFA 'A' Licence. I've coached at nearly all levels
from rec (which I still do) up to semi-pro in the
UK. I wouldn't say that playing for me would ruin
players, I think that I know what I'm doing :)
I am not going site cases although I believe the
OHSAA site does (or did) list certain relevant
cases. In general, what you are going to find is
that membership in the high school athletic
associations is voluntary and therefore if you wish
to participate you do so according to their rules
and regulations. You do not have to be a member of
the high school athletic association and there are
in fact schools that are not here in Ohio -
not a lot, but they do exist. Because the purpose of
the rules is to prevent a competitive advantage
being gained by a team, with economic discrimination
often being a factor as well, the courts tend to
side with the high school associations on this
issue.
There have been recent attempts in the largest
cities to field club teams in the fall as opposed to
playing for your high school but I have yet to hear
any great success story associated with this.
Yes, any high school can restrict the players on
their team by whatever criteria that they want. If
the HS doesn't want players who are also playing REC
soccer at the same time, they can do just that. It
is then up to the player as to what she wants to do.
If she wants to play HS soccer, then she has to quit
playing REC soccer. I am not saying that it is smart
for the HS to place such a restriction, but they
clearly can do so if they desire.
Our state, Colorado, has a rule that you
cannot play with the club if you are playing for the
high school.
In the late 50s and early 60s in high school sports,
coaches were forming clubs made up of their high
school players playing in Leagues during the season
made up of other teams from other high schools. The
QUESTION - WHY? Simple, the High School Sports
Association has the authority to limit the amount of
time you may practice your "student athletes." In
order to get around this, high school "coaches"
simply formed other non-school teams and practiced
additional times.
A friend of mine was on two Basketball teams [high
school & AAU type] and three baseball teams [high
school, Little League & American Legion] during one
high school year and all 5 teams had the same high
school coach. Any question that they practiced more
than the hours allowed under the high school sports
association rules? Every day but SUNDAY plus games
at night and on Saturdays.
Very simply, being on a high school team is a
privilege not a right [this has been settled in
court] and as such the student is required to meet
certain conditions to participate in school
sponsored extra curricula activities such as:
Where You Live
What school you attend {in some states you may play
for a public school while attending private school
if the private school does not have the sport]
What grade you are in school [8th graders can play
high school in some states}
How old you are [maximum age 19 they had 20+ before
this rule]
Grade Point Average [varies usually at least 2.0]
The high school sports association does not care
about a SINGLE school - their mandate is to provide
a HEALTHY exposure to SPORT for the high school
student making them a "student athlete." The IDEA of
banning outside participation in the same sport
during the same season is strictly injury prevention
AND school work / grades.
One aspect that occurs is a club coach will align
themselves with a high school and create the same
situation as the high school coach being the coach.
I have an acquaintance Tony, who uses the high
school soccer coach as his advisor. What does he
advise on? Oh, who should play where, what formation
to run. Why would this not be OK? Well you see the
high school coach has Tony run his formation and try
the players where he sees them playing on the high
school team. Naturally Tony's team probably would be
better served if they played based on the talent
that Tony has. Nothing like having no real center
mid because the high school coach wants to see that
player playing as a forward.
I also say many unsuccessful lawsuits have been
filed over high school sports. I say this having
coached my first high school team in 1968. It's
called being 60 years old and involved a few
decades. One parent sued because their son would not
be able to get an NBA contract if he didn't play his
senior year in high school. Actually the idea was he
wouldn't get a college scholarship. His GPA was 1.75
and he never took summer school classes. They lost,
he went to junior college and ended up playing
Division II back in the 70s.
Many of what would be lawsuits now were appeals to
the high school sports association [I sat in on a
few as a consultant] in the old days. Usually the
kid was cut from the team. In one case, the player
was cut after the school was redistricted and 6
members of the previous years State champions were
suddenly attending that school. They were juniors
and she was a senior who had been a bench warmer the
previous two years. Nevada
As usual, I'm not surprised to see such glaring
inconsistencies with these policies from around the
country and the different opinions on what is right
and wrong.
I'm in the camp of let the players play but of
course I'm also biased (I guess). I think such
restrictions probably are borne from concerns more
about player loyalty than anything else, with the
concerns about injury and burnout being more window
dressing than substantive. I couldn't imagine my
daughter, or any kid, practicing more than once a
day during the week and attending a club training
session or two just to stay connected with the team
and then playing some games on the weekend. I also
think a player should be able to play in
tournaments, etc. even if that does pose a conflict
with the HS team - unless it is Varsity. I think
freshman and JV soccer should be all about player
development and participation, not about do or die
commitments to scholastic soccer. Above all of this
should be academics. Of course, any such
participation should be because the player REALLY
loves the sport and not because a parent and/or
coach, such as myself, wants them to play.
I think that JP has nailed this down appropriately.
school athletics are extra-curricular, voluntary, a
privilege. I am fully supportive of the schools'
rights to make any rules they choose. we don't have
to like them.....and if so, we should lobby them for
explanations as to why they would place restrictions
on kids' free time, but in the end it becomes the
players'/families' choice whether or not to
participate. As long as they define the boundaries
up front, we can make informed decisions. It's the
ones that sneak the penalties in on you after they
set no boundaries and then catch you doing something
they now decide is unacceptable to them...those are
the real pains... Florida
The HS sports associations impose these rules in an
effort to make their sports fair. Club leagues have
a certain mobility factor built in, so that the
teams generally play well-"matched" opponents, and
poor-quality opponents drop out at the bottom. HS
sports don't have that kind of feature, and thus the
HS associations impose rules on how much a team can
practice and how far before the season, and
restricting recruitment, and so forth. This is where
the rules about outside team play come in. As Pete
pointed out, it wouldn't do for a rich community to
subsidize off-hour practices by a HS team when the
poorer schools can't. The point is that these rules
are part of a package that assumes that the
educational aspect and old-school-ties are the main
objectives, not the development of world-class
players.
Over the years, I've come to believe that HS soccer
is generally not much of a contribution to player
development, because the coaches with real soccer
teaching ability are the exception. To come from a
HS program run by a coach who is known as a good
teacher can look good on a player's resume, as can
winning a district or state championship, but those
generally only open the door for the player to get a
look from a college coach. And then there's the
question, if the kid's interest is to develop as a
soccer player or the US soccer community is
interested in a great national team, whether
collegiate soccer has any particular value either.
The discussion also pushed one of my hot-buttons:
kids who make conflicting commitments to two teams
or two activities. For a kid to take on more
commitments than he/she can meet is to let other
people down and to show themselves as unreliable and
dishonorable. Ohio
Injuries are real, burn out is real; they are not
"window dressing". And a fair number of young
athletes are overloaded with multiple concurrent
team commitments.
It is best that club coach and HS coach not be the
same person and that they arrange to have separate
seasons. It is not fair for club coach or HS coach
to ask a young player to "choose". These grown up
people should arrange that the young players can
enjoy the pleasures of both experiences. So club
coach should take a vacation from coaching during
the HS season and the HS coach should release his
players after the HS season ends.
That is one of the most level headed responses to
this situation I have ever read. Every time I hear a
club coach complain about high school soccer or a
high school coach complain about club soccer it only
reinforces in my mind that adult egos are
interfering with kids trying to have fun playing a
game.
Philosophically I think that HS soccer other than
varsity should be all about player development and
participation. So club soccer is a constructive
adjunct, as well as the tournaments, etc. that go
along with it.
I think it should be a no-brainer for club soccer
coaches to have to - to WANT to - communicate with
the HS coach regarding players and conflicts if
there were "shared" players. I think that your
attitude would suit me very well in my situation!
Wish you were in New Jersey.
I also think that playing for your school is a
privilege, and an honor, and should take precedence
over club soccer with regard to practices, etc. I'd
be content to have a (club) player attend one or two
training sessions per week and play in games for the
club team, while attending all of the HS training
and making HS the priority. I do also think that my
club team program is very strong, and very
beneficial in terms of player development.
I honestly have no problem with my high school girls
playing club, as long as the respect from the club
coach is shown, during the high school season, for
him to call/email and let me know what tourneys he's
doing, when he needs the players etc. Getting a 15
year old girl to ask, is to me, well kind of snide.
If this was done before the high school season
started, I could get the hs girls together and let
them know who would be where and why they are
missing practice. High School soccer is a privilege,
and nobody owns a spot, so when the club players
aren't there, its up to the girls that are there to
make it difficult for me to not select them....they
control their own destiny!
In Southern California, it is simple math:
The top players are very heavily concentrated on
gold and premier teams. For boys, there are fewer
than 50 such teams from U16 to U18, many of which
club teams have been playing together year after
year, eight months out of the year. There are a
great many more high schools than 50. LA Unified
School District alone has about 52 high schools. The
talent therefore gets diluted. The high school
season is awfully short. Few high school coaches
receive the money that the top club coaches earn.
The top universities, many of whose assistant
coaches are club coaches or club trainers, know
this.
Along these same lines, there has been some conflict
over which looks better on the college applications:
club teams or HS teams. Most kids in my region favor
club teams as being more "exclusive" or
"prestigious" or better trained (not necessarily
true, IMHO :-). Which, of course, eventually leads
to scheduling conflicts often hurting the HS team.
I am quite interested in some feedback from the list
regarding the issues raised by players playing for
two different groups during the same season.
Specifically, how would you deal with the inevitable
conflicts? A starting player misses a HS training
session due to club commitments. All of your other
players are attending. How could you start that
player when they are missing sessions and maintain
some semblance of institutional control?
The same would apply if you were the club coach and
a player was missing training to attend their HS
training session.
Given two players of equal talent, one shows up for
your training and the other is at their other
activity... which one starts? Gets the play time?
I'm not sure what the regulations are in
Massachusetts and whether his club coach
violated them, but he ran a Sunday practice every
3rd week during the high school season. This
additional load did not seem to be an issue for my
son (or us) and in no way conflicted with his HS
schedule. In fact, his high school team experience
was so abysmal, he genuinely looked forward to these
Sunday afternoons and it probably had the effect of
preventing burn-out (after 15 practices and ~ 6
games of ugly kick and run, he got to play 2 hours
of beautiful possession soccer). Personally, while I
understand, the admirable goal of preventing
burnout, I think that whatever legal activities an
individual chooses on his own time are of no concern
to our tax-dollar supported public schools.
During the High School season our club team goes to
a schedule of just playing tournaments.
I stand corrected. In an earlier post it was
indicated to me that some High Schools do restrict
players from participating in club activities and do
have the right legally. I was wrong. I guess I'm
just shocked that as a nation we seemed to have lost
our ability to protect one's right to freely
participate in ones own interest. What other
freedoms are we so willing to give up? Don't get me
wrong, I truly believe that to much of a good thing
can be detrimental. Playing club ball and High
School is really to much. Any normal thinking person
would agree. While I can understand the negative
impact playing both could have on a player, I
believe this should be left to the player and the
parents discretion. I cringe when people try to
dictate what others can or can't do with their free
time. Not everyone feels it's to much. Everyone
should have the right to make up his or her mind.
Not a school board. For example I see nothing wrong
with a club team holding technical training sessions
to keep the skill levels up.
Comment from Ken:
As you can see it's not just Alabama's High
School Athletic Association that limits
participation in outside sports during the high
school sport season - most states also have some
sort of restrictions. And those states that have no
restrictions are not a "Soccer Utopia". Not having
restrictions still means having problems - they're
just different types of problems.
Ken Gamble
The thing I love about sports is the emotion it
brings to a world where true passion is such a
scarce commodity. In a society where personal,
political and religious beliefs are muzzled for fear
of offending, sports remains one of our last
legitimate outlets. It allows us to scream and cheer
and wear our bias on our sleeves like medals of
honor earned in combat. Here we can state our case,
argue the obvious and steadfastly defend
indefensible positions without fear or remorse. Ken
Burger - Charleston South Carolina Post and Courier
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Mississippi wouldn't be the first state to adopt
such regulations. Louisiana and Alabama have had
rules in place for more than 15 years that prevent
students from playing for their school team and an
outside team during that sport's season.
"It keeps kids from coming back to your school team
hurt and from being coached by a coach who may not
be up on techniques," said Dan Washburn, executive
director of the Alabama High School Athletic
Association. "Our coaches love it because they don't
want anybody else coaching their kids."
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Mississippi Faces new Restrictive Proposals
MHSAA Regulating Outside Sports Activities -
What is the rational for not allowing a child to
participate on an outside team within the same sport
during the HS season?
It was proposed yesterday to the executive committee
of MHSAA that any athlete participating on
select team would not be allowed to play the same
sport during the HS season: If the kid plays select
soccer, he/she would NOT be allowed to play HS
soccer because the seasons are concurrent. The
student will have to make a choice.
High School or Select Soccer - Which would you
choose?
How do schools decide what you do outside schools?,
Answer me this?
Mobile-area schools sponsored the proposal, and it
was obvious it was aimed at outside organizations
such as AAU and club teams. There had been
concern about the influence these organizations and
their coaches have had on high school athletes.
"This is putting kids back in the (high school)
coaches' hands," UMS-Wright principal Ed Lathan
said. "They will be doing what they are trained to
do and paid to do. This should also involve more
kids, especially younger ones and junior varsity
kids."
Said Huntsville City Schools athletic director Wade
Lipscomb: "This will put us on equal footing with
states around us. It is about schools wanting their
coaches to coach their kids."
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